Let the Ecumenical and the Ecumen-ish continue to rally. They are working against the will of God.

I will try, with the Help of the Helper, to address the error of water baptism of infants in the line of unity in the Body and also the importance of unity and then again baptism on behalf of one's belief and confession. Likewise, of course, the importance of being baptised by Jesus in the Holy Spirit. Spoken by Jesus in His Gospel according to John 17:20-23; we need to be one with one another and with Jesus and the Father so the world can believe.

We have to start with John 3:5 We need to agree upon this; when we talk about being in one body we need to be born again and to be born again is to be born of water and Spirit; baptised in water and Spirit.

To address this we need to go to teaching in Romans 6 when this is clear. Further more we need to read the teaching in Hebrew 6.

Romans 6 say clearly that we are resurrected with Christ in the baptism. And also new life is clearly stated. A part of being born again. Jesus say to be one, perfect in one, and that is also mention in Hebrew 6 when it comes to the six principles that we need to be united in to go further into perfection. One of them is “the doctrine of baptism”. So, we need to agree upon “the doctrine of baptism” before we can go further in perfection and unity.

Acts is very clear when it comes to that, but let’s read 1. Peter 3 when he talks about the importance to be baptised which saves us through the resurrection of Christ. As a covenant with God. So also he does in acts 2.38. We can read about these in entire chapters; 2, 8, 9, 10, 16, 18 and 19. There are four thing which is eminent; repentance, water baptism, laying on hands and baptism in the Holy Spirit. If we can not see out of this how important it is with water baptism and baptism in the Hoy Spirit to have unity, we have a problem.

Of course we need to be in unity with these things before we can go further on to perfection. If we can’t agree upon even that there is no point going any further. Then we have to come together and ask the Holy Spirit. And don't leave before we are in unity. That us the problem; we are not willing to do that.

So back to the problem. Baptism of infants. Let’s take the typical objections. That will tell us that we make assumption. Scripture are talking about “households” and “families”. Especially in Acts 10 and 16. There is also someone who really, really, wants to make a big issue about Acts 2,”you and your children”

Well, let’s start with Acts 2. Peter is talking about the promise. The promises are the outpouring of the spirit. Acts 10; they hear them speaking in tongs and glorify God. Well anyone heard an infant do that, and even have the translation? So the jailer in chap 16. It was in the middle of the night and He draws his sword and was going to take his own life. Any children watching that …

Then we can go back to the importance. Peter asks in 10; can anyone forbid them water. And then he commanded them to be baptised. Likewise in 19, they ask about spirit baptism and water baptism because that is essential. That is the proof. That is the start of producing fruit, with the Help of the Helper, as a born again fisher of men that believes and get baptised.

When it comes to further proof I will like you to conceder this; Catholics believe but refuse to baptise, same with Protestant, Lutherans, Methodist i.e, inclusive Satan. He also believes, but ask him to baptise. It is impossible. He is the one who has made this difficult for other also. We need to be baptised on behave of our belief in heart and confession with mouth. When it comes to other religions it is a the baptism in water that is the sign of conversion.

Judaism, Islam, Ahmadiyya, Baha'i, Hinduism, Buddhism, indeed all "major" religions and perhaps the two "greatest" atheists and agnostics “believe” in Jesus and are bound to Jesus more or less. Historical or religious. Thus, the planet has a relationship with Jesus. But is when we talk about being baptised there is a problem.

May be one have to travel to a country like Philippines and experience this first hand to understand the darkness and demonic about it. But we have it in the western Protestant church also. It is a trick from Satan and it stops many believers to baptise, to be born again. Do you really think that the devil will stand there dressed in black with horns and a fork in his hand telling obvious lies? No he is too tricky to do that. This is his trick to stop believers to be baptised on their belief. There is allays a fight before baptism (if not you get baptised in spirit first). And always peach after. that is because you resist the devil and he have to flee from you.

We have got two sacraments, baptism and breaking of bread. Both a covenant. Most Holy. If we can’t agree on this two, no way we can unite in more. Baptism of infants is a satanic trick to stop unity. The sooner we realize that we sooner we can go further in unity.

On top of this Jesus say; this belongs to the Kingdom already in Matt 19. His disciple rebukes the parents who want to give the small children to Jesus for blessing. Because they didn't know better. A child could don’t attend a Rabi, teacher, before 12 years old. That’s why that happens. But you think it was OK to baptise them. No children under 12 was baptised in the early church. It was unthinkable. It is devil doctrine and we have to understand it is because he tries to stop us from the real baptism on behalf on our belief. And that need to be done.

Anyone heard anywhere that an infant have any kind of a covenant with God apart from being written in the Book of Life from before its birth?

Matt 28:18-20 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

This is one whole statement. Anyone have heard of an infant who can be taught anything?

Infant can't believe or confess and that is The Requirement and only requirement for being baptised. And this we can't agree upon? And we are talking about being one? Be in total unity? It is sad; the world is in this state because of the tricks from Satan. That is the pure fact. Yeah, let's be one, let's unite so the world can believe. But not on the cost of the Holy. No compromising on the fundamental. Let the Ecumenical and the Ecumen-ish continue to rally. They are working against the will of God.